Marcus: —can you see my screen? No? Hold on.
Morgan: I can’t see anything yet. Are you sharing?
Marcus: I thought I clicked… [clicking sounds] …okay, how about now?
Morgan: Still nothing. You know what, we don’t need screen share. Let’s just talk.
Marcus: [laughs] Thank god. I hate Zoom. Okay, I’m ready.
Morgan: Perfect. So I want to talk about voice search, but first— how long have you been doing local SEO?
Marcus: Twelve years. Started in 2013 after I helped my brother’s HVAC company get on the first page of Google. He went from getting maybe three calls a week to getting three calls a day. I was like, “Wait, I can make money doing this?”
Morgan: And now you work with local businesses exclusively?
Marcus: Pretty much, yeah. Restaurants, home services, medical practices, retail stores. If you’re a brick-and-mortar business that needs customers to walk through your door or call you, I’m your guy.
Morgan: Okay, so tell me about voice search. When did you decide that was going to be the next big thing?
Marcus: 2019. Every SEO conference I went to that year had at least three sessions on voice search optimization. The future is voice!” “50% of searches will be voice by 2020!” Everyone was buying Echo Dots and Google Homes, and all the data suggested voice was about to explode.
Morgan: You believed it.
Marcus: I didn’t just believe it— I went all in. Like, embarrassingly all in.
Morgan: What does “all in” mean?
Marcus: Okay, so in early 2019, I pitched this new service to all my existing clients. “Voice Search Optimization Package.” I told them that within two years, most people would be searching for local businesses using voice assistants instead of typing, and if they didn’t optimize for it now, they’d get left behind.
Morgan: How many clients bought it?
Marcus: [laughs] Way too many. I signed up like 200 businesses across 14 months. The package was $400 a month per client, which seemed reasonable for what I was promising. I told them we’d restructure their content to answer conversational queries, optimize for question-based keywords, improve their local structured data— the whole nine yards.
Morgan: That sounds legitimate though.
Marcus: It was legitimate! The strategy was sound. The problem was that the opportunity didn’t exist.
Morgan: What do you mean?
Marcus: I mean, nobody was actually using voice search to find local businesses. Or at least, not enough people to make any measurable difference. But I didn’t know that yet. So I spent 14 months restructuring websites, rewriting content, building FAQ pages, implementing speakable schema markup—
Morgan: Wait, speakable schema?
Marcus: [groans] Oh god, yes. Speakable schema. It was this markup that was supposed to tell voice assistants which parts of your content were good for reading aloud. I implemented it on like 180 websites. Total waste of time.
Morgan: When did you realize it wasn’t working?
Marcus: Slowly, then all at once. Like, after six months, I started noticing that none of my clients were reporting increases in phone calls or foot traffic. And when I asked them directly, “Have you noticed more customers mentioning they found you through Alexa or Google Home?” they’d be like, “No, not really.”
Morgan: What did you tell them?
Marcus: I told them it was still early. That voice adoption was slower than predicted but it was definitely coming. And I believed that! I really did. So I kept optimizing.
Morgan: For how long?
Marcus: Another eight months. I was in denial, basically. I’d read articles about voice search growth and convince myself that my clients just needed more time to see results. Meanwhile, I’m spending hours every week creating voice-optimized content that nobody’s consuming.
Morgan: When did you finally accept it wasn’t working?
Marcus: December 2020. I was doing my end-of-year review, looking at all my clients’ analytics, and I decided to actually track voice search traffic. Like, really track it. I went into Google Analytics for all 200 clients and looked for any indication of voice search traffic.
Morgan: How did you identify voice traffic?
Marcus: Long-tail, conversational queries. Things like “where can I find Italian food near me” instead of “Italian restaurant Chicago.” Questions that start with “how,” “what,” “where.” The kind of queries people would speak out loud.
Morgan: And what did you find?
Marcus: Almost nothing. Across 200 businesses, voice-style queries accounted for maybe 2-3% of total search traffic. And even that was probably people typing conversational queries, not speaking them. There was no way to prove actual voice device usage.
Morgan: How did you feel when you realized this?
Marcus: Like an idiot. Like I’d just spent 14 months— 14 months— selling a service that didn’t deliver results. I’d taken $80,000 from small businesses who trusted me, and I had nothing to show for it.
Morgan: Did you tell your clients?
Marcus: Not right away. I was too embarrassed. I just quietly started phasing out the voice search optimization package. When clients would ask about renewing, I’d say something like, “Let’s focus on traditional SEO for now and revisit voice later.
Morgan: Did anyone push back?
Marcus: A few. I had one client— owner of a plumbing company in Milwaukee— he called me up and was like, “Marcus, I’ve been paying you \$400 a month for voice optimization for over a year. Has it done anything?” And I just… [long pause] …I told him the truth. I said, “No. It hasn’t. And I’m sorry I sold you on something that didn’t deliver.”
Morgan: How did he react?
Marcus: He was actually pretty cool about it. He said, “I appreciate the honesty. Let’s just do regular SEO from now on.” But I still refunded him for six months of services. Felt like the right thing to do.
Morgan: Did you refund other clients?
Marcus: I offered refunds to everyone who’d been on the voice package for more than a year. About 30 clients took me up on it. That was like $72,000 out of my pocket. Nearly wiped out my savings.
Morgan: Jesus. Why did you refund so much?
Marcus: Because I felt guilty! These are small business owners. A plumber, a dentist, a woman who runs a bakery. They’re not making a ton of money. And I took their hard-earned cash and spent it optimizing for something that didn’t matter.
Morgan: But you didn’t know it wouldn’t work when you started.
Marcus: I should have known sooner. The data was there. I just didn’t want to see it because admitting I was wrong meant admitting I’d wasted everyone’s time and money.
Morgan: What did you do after you stopped offering voice optimization?
Marcus: I went back to basics. Traditional local SEO. GMB optimization, local citations, review management, on-page SEO. The boring stuff that actually works. And you know what? My clients’ results got better almost immediately.
Morgan: Better how?
Marcus: More calls, more website traffic, higher rankings. Because I was focusing on what actually moved the needle instead of chasing some hypothetical future.
Morgan: Do you think voice search will ever become important?
Marcus: [pause] Not in the way we thought it would. Like, people use voice assistants for timers and weather and playing music. But for commercial queries— finding a business, making a purchase decision— people still type. They want to see options, read reviews, compare prices. Voice doesn’t work for that.
Morgan: What about now with ChatGPT and Claude? Do you think AI search is different?
Marcus: Yes and no. AI search is definitely changing things, but it’s not voice. People are typing queries into ChatGPT, not speaking them. And the optimization strategy is completely different from what we were doing in 2019.
Morgan: How is it different?
Marcus: In 2019, we were optimizing for question-answer format. “Where’s the best pizza near me?” Now with AI search, it’s more about being a cited source. The AI scrapes information from multiple sources and synthesizes an answer. So you want your business to be included in that synthesis, which means having clear, factual information that AI can extract.
Morgan: Are you offering AI search optimization now?
Marcus: [laughs] Hell no. I learned my lesson. I’m not selling services based on emerging technology until I can prove ROI. Right now, I’m just monitoring how AI search affects my clients and adapting as needed.
Morgan: That seems wise.
Marcus: It’s the lesson I should have learned in 2019. Don’t build your business around predictions. Build it around what’s actually working today.
Morgan: Do you think you were a victim of hype?
Marcus: Absolutely. The whole industry was hyping voice search. Every blog post, every conference talk, every expert was saying the same thing. And I got swept up in it because I didn’t want to be left behind.
Morgan: Do you feel like the industry misled you?
Marcus: I don’t think it was intentional. I think everyone genuinely believed voice search was going to explode. The data suggested it. The technology was there. It just… didn’t happen the way we expected.
Morgan: Why do you think it didn’t happen?
Marcus: Because speaking to a device is awkward. Like, think about it. You’re sitting in your living room and you want to find a plumber. Are you going to yell “Alexa, find me a plumber near me!” or are you going to just pull out your phone and Google it? Most people choose the phone.
Morgan: That makes sense.
Marcus: Yeah. And it seems obvious in retrospect, but at the time, we were all convinced that convenience would trump awkwardness. We were wrong.
Morgan: What would you tell someone today who’s thinking about going all-in on AI search optimization?
Marcus: Test first. Don’t sell services based on what you think will happen. Wait until you can show actual results. Because if you’re wrong, you’re not just losing your own money— you’re losing your clients’ money and your reputation.
Morgan: That’s pretty conservative for an SEO.
Marcus: [laughs] Yeah, well, I used to be aggressive. Now I’m cautious. Getting burned once will do that to you.
Morgan: Do you still work with local businesses?
Marcus: Yeah, that’s still all I do. I’m just way more focused on proven strategies now. Less about what’s coming next, more about what works today.
Morgan: Do your clients know about the voice search thing?
Marcus: Some do. The ones who were around for it definitely know. New clients don’t usually hear about it unless it comes up naturally. It’s not something I advertise.
Morgan: [laughs] I bet.
Marcus: Yeah. Hi, I’m Marcus, and I once wasted \$80,000 of my clients’ money on voice search optimization” isn’t a great elevator pitch.
Morgan: [laughs] But it’s honest.
Marcus: It is. And honestly, I think the clients who stuck with me after that whole debacle trust me more now. Because they know I’ll admit when I’m wrong and I’ll make it right.
Morgan: That’s actually kind of beautiful.
Marcus: [laughs] Don’t make me sound too noble. I fucked up and I fixed it. That’s all.
Morgan: Fair enough. Alright, last question— if you could go back to 2019 and give yourself advice, what would you say?
Marcus: [pause] I’d say, “Test it on ten clients for six months before selling it to 200. And if you can’t show measurable ROI after six months, kill it and move on.”
Morgan: Would 2019 Marcus listen?
Marcus: [laughs] Probably not. But at least I’d have tried.
Morgan: [laughs] Alright, I should let you go. This was really good though. Thanks for being so honest about the whole thing.
Marcus: Thanks for letting me vent about it. It’s actually kind of therapeutic.
Morgan: Good. That’s the whole point. Alright, take care Marcus.
Marcus: You too, Morgan.
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Table of Contents
ToggleKey Lessons Learned
“Don’t build your business around predictions. Build it around what’s actually working today.”
1. Industry Hype Doesn’t Equal Market Reality
Every 2019 conference promised “50% of searches will be voice by 2020.” The technology existed, the predictions were confident, but actual consumer behavior never followed. Marcus sold 200 packages based on industry consensus, not verified demand.
2. Test Before You Scale
Marcus went from zero voice clients to 200 in 14 months without ever proving ROI. A six-month pilot with ten clients would have revealed the problem before $80K was committed.
3. Speaking to Devices Is Socially Awkward
The fatal flaw nobody predicted: people don’t want to yell commercial queries at voice assistants in public or at home. Pulling out a phone to type is less awkward than asking Alexa for a plumber while your family listens.
4. Conversational Queries ≠ Voice Queries
Marcus found 2-3% of traffic used conversational phrasing, but couldn’t prove it came from voice devices. People type conversational questions too—the query format doesn’t indicate the input method.
5. Slow Realization Is Expensive
“After six months, none of my clients were reporting increases. But I told them it was still early… I kept optimizing for another eight months.”
Marcus knew something was wrong at month six but didn’t investigate thoroughly until month 14. Denial cost an extra eight months of wasted work and client fees.
6. Small Businesses Deserved Better
These weren’t Fortune 500 companies—they were plumbers, dentists, bakery owners. Marcus refunded $72,000 because taking money from small businesses without delivering results felt morally wrong, even if it was an honest mistake.
7. Speakable Schema Was Theater
Implementing specialized markup for voice assistants across 180 websites consumed hundreds of hours and delivered zero value. The technology infrastructure existed, but the user behavior never materialized.
8. Traditional SEO Works Because It’s Proven
After abandoning voice optimization and returning to “boring” tactics (GMB optimization, citations, reviews), client results improved immediately. Fundamentals outperform speculative strategies.
9. Honesty Rebuilds Trust
When the Milwaukee plumber asked point-blank if voice optimization had worked, Marcus told the truth and refunded six months. That client stayed. Transparency after failure can strengthen relationships.
10. AI Search ≠ Voice Search 2.0
ChatGPT and Claude represent a different paradigm—typed queries with synthesized answers from multiple sources. The optimization strategy (being a citable source) differs entirely from voice’s question-answer format. Marcus won’t repeat 2019’s mistake by jumping on AI search prematurely.
About Marcus Williams
Marcus Williams is a local business SEO expert with twelve years of experience helping brick-and-mortar businesses improve their search visibility. He specializes in Google Business Profile optimization, local citation management, and on-page SEO for restaurants, home service companies, medical practices, and retail stores.
After helping his brother’s HVAC company triple their call volume through basic SEO in 2013, Marcus discovered he had a talent for local search and turned it into a full-time career. His approach focuses on measurable results—more phone calls, more foot traffic, more revenue—rather than vanity metrics like rankings and impressions.
In 2019, swept up in industry predictions that voice search would dominate local queries, Marcus launched a voice optimization service and sold it to 200 clients over 14 months at \$400/month. He spent countless hours restructuring content for conversational queries, implementing speakable schema, and building FAQ pages optimized for Alexa and Google Home.
“I didn’t just believe it—I went all in. Like, embarrassingly all in.”
By late 2020, the uncomfortable truth became unavoidable: voice search traffic remained negligible. After tracking analytics across 200 businesses, Marcus found conversational queries accounted for only 2-3% of traffic, with no way to prove actual voice device usage. He’d spent 14 months and approximately $80,000 in client fees pursuing a future that never materialized.
Marcus offered refunds to every client who’d paid for voice optimization for over a year. Thirty clients accepted, costing him $72,000 and nearly wiping out his savings. He returned to traditional local SEO tactics and saw immediate improvement in client results.
The experience transformed Marcus from an aggressive early adopter into a cautious pragmatist. He now refuses to sell services based on emerging technology until he can demonstrate consistent ROI. When ChatGPT launched and AI search became the new industry obsession, Marcus declined to offer AI optimization packages—applying the lesson he learned from voice search.
Marcus lives in Chicago and now focuses exclusively on proven local SEO strategies that deliver measurable business results today, not hypothetical gains tomorrow.
This interview was conducted via video call in June 2025. Marcus spoke candidly about both the financial impact and emotional weight of selling services that didn’t deliver. The conversation has been edited for clarity while preserving his honest reflection on industry hype and personal accountability.
